I bought the Powder Kiss color along with the pink Be My! This was my first time using a matte lipliner and lip liner, so I asked the beauty advisor to help me choose, and she chose this reddish-brown lipliner called Warin. When I asked her if she recommended this one and not the pencil, she said that if it was your first time, this one would be better, and that pencils are difficult to apply with pressure, so this one is easier. It goes on smoothly and I'm very happy with it! It's not too shiny and pairs well with matte lipstick! It makes thin lips look naturally thicker!